2019 - people still using Java?
Especially after all the shitty practices Oracle does?

Surprising.

@calmyourtities Argumentum ad populum

@heyheni He's far from being a nazi, but I don't like the guy either.

Forced laughter is not my kind of humour.

Half of these are ambigious, 1st isn't even a suggestion - it's a requirement that comes from language itself.

@Midnigh-shcode Yeah, a bit of an overkill.

@geaz I enjoyed using CefSharp for frontend and C# for backend, hence why I thought there definitely has to be an up-to-date library that I could use to separate frontend and backend by language.

@geaz As I said, 3 times already.
I've used WPF - a lot.
I know WPF, very well.
That's why - I don't want to use it for this project, because it would force MVVM pattern and it would be terribly ineffective in this case.

@gruff It's a desktop app, C#, .NET.

@Kekica Winforms.

@Kekica That's exactly the reason I don't want to write it in WPF - because it'll come out as spaghetti code.

@CozyPlanes Beginners?

Why does everyone imply I'm a begineer because I don't want to use MVVM where it wouldn't be effective?

I have over 4 years of professional C# experience, what is going on?

@JS96 Because my app defies MVVM, MVC or any other pattern due to fact there are no resources to manage.

I think it stops compiling at 1000 until you fix the rest.

Fix the first 1000 to see another 1000.

@PreyK Visual Studio isn't owned by Google.

@AlmondSauce That's true - it's too early to predict such things.

I only hope Oracle gets forced to sell Java to someone who knows what they are doing.

The fuck are stories?

@AlmondSauce I agree with some bits, but most of these come to personal experience and we should really skip these.

Objectively, I don't see Java getting better in the future, if devs have to stick to old versions.

@AlmondSauce Yes, that part about bitwise operation is what I heard from a vivid Java developer. It's possible that I misheard it or misunderstood.

#edit - can you also point any other arguments that I made to be false? I would appreciate input.

@sergiolarosa89
Speaks a lot about COBOL devs if to question 'PHP or Node.js' they answer from a set that doesn't exist.

@mampf
I strongly disagree.
C# in my country has over 70% of the market and is paid better.
Not to mention that Oracle is effectively trying to kill Java with Google lawsuits, licensing chaoses etc.

But to put it into reasonable arguments:
- Java is too verbose, something that takes 10 lines to write in Java, takes 2 lines in C#.
- Each C# update improves syntax, reducing the amount of code you have to write to achieve the same results quicker.
- Java is behind with all the cool stuff compared to C# - for example: lambdas: C# had them since 2007, Java had them since 2014.
- Java has no bitwise operations.
- Threading in Java is miserable.
- Java has way better reflection in terms of efficiency.
- C# .NET Core makes it easy to write apps for Linux, but Java is still more common to use on such OS.

You can get rid of most of my arguments if you use a Java-derived language like Kotlin or so, but end to end it just reduces amount of jobs you can find.

You are flying around this post with your conclusion, I don't know wether you are bashing or praising games.

PHP is awesome.

That bulge?
It's a trap!

Yeah, there is a way to echo more efficiently.

Drop the middle man - use C++.

As someone who works part time, studies full time and still manages to find time for games and personal projects - I agree.

As someone who hates people putting nose into matters that do not concern them - that's none of your business.

@MonkeyParade You can easily tell I'm not a node.js expert.

@Condor Whatever you say, I'm already bored of this conversation.

Buh bye.

@Condor You are implying that you never insulted me - but you aren't being honest to yourself.

Saying that someone didn't do something out of 'sheer laziness' is the exact same as calling someone lazy.

It's subtle... lol.

@Condor Your assumptions are wrong.

I haven't answered your question because you are a miserable human being too far up his own arse.

You overgeneralize people and look down on everyone - which is not a sign of intelligence, it's a sign of an inflated ego.

Not to mention hypocrisy that comes from you bitching about people browsing facebook, when you are posting worthless stories on yet another community.

Live on and prosper, sucker.